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		<title>Comment on Baby steps vs. real reform by arthurofrhodes</title>
		<link>http://www.onevoiceforworkingforests.com/2011/01/baby-steps-vs-real-reform/comment-page-1/#comment-1231</link>
		<dc:creator>arthurofrhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 19:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post.  There are signs that at least some in the federal bureaucracy are starting to &quot;get it.&quot;  One would hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post.  There are signs that at least some in the federal bureaucracy are starting to &#8220;get it.&#8221;  One would hope.</p>
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		<title>Comment on LEED: &#8220;A new and unloved standard&#8221; by Patti Case</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patti Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 20:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin Pierce&#039;s hands-on experience with the LEED standard versus REAL environmental sustainability in structures is enlightening.  These articles should be required reading for every architect and builder before he/she self-proclaims &quot;green&quot; status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin Pierce&#8217;s hands-on experience with the LEED standard versus REAL environmental sustainability in structures is enlightening.  These articles should be required reading for every architect and builder before he/she self-proclaims &#8220;green&#8221; status.</p>
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		<title>Comment on EPA standing in the way by arthur</title>
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		<dc:creator>arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RMida:  Biomass plants are primarily fueled with wood waste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RMida:  Biomass plants are primarily fueled with wood waste.</p>
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		<title>Comment on EPA standing in the way by RMida</title>
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		<dc:creator>RMida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exciting new technology? Hello - it&#039;s not like we having burned wood before. It&#039;s just now in a different package. I prefer our forests to be used for value added products rather than fodder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exciting new technology? Hello &#8211; it&#8217;s not like we having burned wood before. It&#8217;s just now in a different package. I prefer our forests to be used for value added products rather than fodder.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Biomass on NPR by Alison Henslee</title>
		<link>http://www.onevoiceforworkingforests.com/2010/05/biomass-on-npr/comment-page-1/#comment-311</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Henslee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also had no idea that One Voice would select my comment out of all those submitted and use it out of context re: Shelton, WA! Again, my apologies to any reader for the confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also had no idea that One Voice would select my comment out of all those submitted and use it out of context re: Shelton, WA! Again, my apologies to any reader for the confusion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Biomass on NPR by Alison Henslee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison Henslee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry...I didn&#039;t identify in my comment that I live in northern Idaho...where we DO have bug infestation and where we DO watch trees die and we DO have a lot of employment issues. Was commenting in general on the NPR article...not your area specifically. Sorry to have upset you!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry&#8230;I didn&#8217;t identify in my comment that I live in northern Idaho&#8230;where we DO have bug infestation and where we DO watch trees die and we DO have a lot of employment issues. Was commenting in general on the NPR article&#8230;not your area specifically. Sorry to have upset you!!!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Biomass on NPR by skoksvalley</title>
		<link>http://www.onevoiceforworkingforests.com/2010/05/biomass-on-npr/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>skoksvalley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 03:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trees dying due to bug infestation is not much of a problem on the Olympic. That is a problem in many areas, but not here. I laughed when I read that we are sitting watching trees die. The timber industry has been dying for sometime now. I worked for the Forest Service for 9 years and Simpson for 12. I was laid off before this Biomass was even talked about. 
 
The dump does take wood. I know I was there a couple of weeks ago. Really there is a wood recycler on Johns Prairie Road where most people in the county go. 

The sawdust is shipped from the mill along with the hog fuel and sold. The mills have been running off and on for awhile now, but not because of anything but the crappy housing market. Who do you think buys the lumber...

Environmentalist are not the ones opposing this plant it is many of our  local residents in Mason County. My family is 4th generation timber industry, local mills and logging. 

I was born in Shelton 45 years ago and no one I know has heard of this name, it isn&#039;t in our local phone book. Who are you, really?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trees dying due to bug infestation is not much of a problem on the Olympic. That is a problem in many areas, but not here. I laughed when I read that we are sitting watching trees die. The timber industry has been dying for sometime now. I worked for the Forest Service for 9 years and Simpson for 12. I was laid off before this Biomass was even talked about. </p>
<p>The dump does take wood. I know I was there a couple of weeks ago. Really there is a wood recycler on Johns Prairie Road where most people in the county go. </p>
<p>The sawdust is shipped from the mill along with the hog fuel and sold. The mills have been running off and on for awhile now, but not because of anything but the crappy housing market. Who do you think buys the lumber&#8230;</p>
<p>Environmentalist are not the ones opposing this plant it is many of our  local residents in Mason County. My family is 4th generation timber industry, local mills and logging. </p>
<p>I was born in Shelton 45 years ago and no one I know has heard of this name, it isn&#8217;t in our local phone book. Who are you, really?</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Biochar Moment by Erich J. Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erich J. Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Plastics are not a feedstock for Biochar,
They can be gasified for fuel.
Biochar needs the plant cell structure formed in the lignins &amp; cellulose.

All political persuasions agree, building soil carbon is GOOD.
To me, in the long run,  the final arbiter / accountancy / measure of sustainability will be soil carbon content and  the truth of proper land-management and Biochar systems will be self-evident.

The Agricultural Soil Carbon Sequestration Standard is in final review by the AMS-ARC branch at USDA, which allows Farmers account for their good work.

 My read of the agronomic history of civilization shows that the Kayopo Amazon Indians and the Egyptians were the only ones to maintain fertility for the long haul, millennium scales. Egypt has now forsaken their geologic advantage by building the Aswan dam, and are stuck, with the rest of us, in the soil Carbon mining, NPK rat race, to the bottom.

In E. O. Wilson&#039;s &quot;The Future of Life&quot; he opens the book with a letter to Thoreau updating him on our current understanding of the nature of the ecology of the soils at Walden Pond.

  Arthropods present in dozens-hundreds, then barely visible to the naked eye, the numbers jump to thousands; Nematode and enchytraied pot worms, mites, springtails, pauropods, diplurans, symphylans, and tardigrades seethe in the underground. Their home is a labyrinth of miniature caves and walls of rotting vegetable debris cross-strung with ten yards of fungal threads. Penetrate microscopic water films on grains of sand, and find ten billion bacteria in a thimble full.
and Wilson concludes;

&quot;Now it is up to us to summon a more Encompassing Wisdom.&quot;

Agriculture allowed our cultural accent and Agriculture will now prevent our descent.

Wise Land management; Organic farming and afforestation can build back our soil carbon,

Biochar allows the soil food web to build much more recalcitrant organic carbon, ( living biomass &amp; Glomalins) in addition to the carbon in the biochar.

Every 1 ton of Biomass yields 1/3 ton Charcoal for soil Sequestration (= to 1 Ton CO2e) + Bio-Gas &amp; Bio-oil fuels = to 1MWh exported electricity, so is a totally virtuous, carbon negative energy cycle.

Biochar viewed as soil Infrastructure; The old saw;
&quot;Feed the Soil Not the Plants&quot; becomes;
&quot;Feed, Cloth and House the Soil, utilities included !&quot;.
Free Carbon Condominiums with carboxyl group fats in the pantry and hydroxyl alcohol in the mini bar.
Build it and the Wee-Beasties will come.
Microbes like to sit down when they eat.
By setting this table we expand husbandry to whole new orders &amp; Kingdoms of life.
( These oxidised surface charges; carbonyl. hydroxyl, carboxylic acids, and lactones or quinones,  have as well a role as signaling substances towards bacteria, fungi and plants.)

This is what I try to get across to Farmers, as to how I feel about the act of returning carbon to the soil. An act of penitence and thankfulness for the civilization we have created. Farmers are the Soil Sink Bankers, once carbon has a price, they will be laughing all the way to it.
Unlike CCS which only reduces emissions, biochar systems draw down CO2 every energy cycle, closing a circle back to support the soil food web.  The photosynthetic  &quot;capture&quot; collectors are up and running, the &quot;storage&quot; sink is in operation just under our feet.  Pyrolysis conversion plants are the only infrastructure  we need to build out.

For those looking for an overview of biochar and its benefits, These authors have done a very nice job of distilling a great deal of information about biochar and applying it to the US context:

US -Focused Biochar report: Assessment of Biochar&#039;s Benefits for the USA http://www.biochar-us.org/pdf%20files/biochar_report_lowres.pdf

Ultimately we must leave the combustion age behind. Charcoal to the soil is a bridging first step as other energy conversion technologies bloom from Nano and bio reasearch. Thankfully we can do Pyrolitic Biofuels now.

Oil interest must come to see the overwhelming value of their carbon as the feedstock for the manufacture ( via carbon nanotubes, fullerines, DNA programed nano self assembly, etc.) of virtually all things in the near future.

This convergence of different technologies will end the Combustion age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plastics are not a feedstock for Biochar,<br />
They can be gasified for fuel.<br />
Biochar needs the plant cell structure formed in the lignins &amp; cellulose.</p>
<p>All political persuasions agree, building soil carbon is GOOD.<br />
To me, in the long run,  the final arbiter / accountancy / measure of sustainability will be soil carbon content and  the truth of proper land-management and Biochar systems will be self-evident.</p>
<p>The Agricultural Soil Carbon Sequestration Standard is in final review by the AMS-ARC branch at USDA, which allows Farmers account for their good work.</p>
<p> My read of the agronomic history of civilization shows that the Kayopo Amazon Indians and the Egyptians were the only ones to maintain fertility for the long haul, millennium scales. Egypt has now forsaken their geologic advantage by building the Aswan dam, and are stuck, with the rest of us, in the soil Carbon mining, NPK rat race, to the bottom.</p>
<p>In E. O. Wilson&#8217;s &#8220;The Future of Life&#8221; he opens the book with a letter to Thoreau updating him on our current understanding of the nature of the ecology of the soils at Walden Pond.</p>
<p>  Arthropods present in dozens-hundreds, then barely visible to the naked eye, the numbers jump to thousands; Nematode and enchytraied pot worms, mites, springtails, pauropods, diplurans, symphylans, and tardigrades seethe in the underground. Their home is a labyrinth of miniature caves and walls of rotting vegetable debris cross-strung with ten yards of fungal threads. Penetrate microscopic water films on grains of sand, and find ten billion bacteria in a thimble full.<br />
and Wilson concludes;</p>
<p>&#8220;Now it is up to us to summon a more Encompassing Wisdom.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agriculture allowed our cultural accent and Agriculture will now prevent our descent.</p>
<p>Wise Land management; Organic farming and afforestation can build back our soil carbon,</p>
<p>Biochar allows the soil food web to build much more recalcitrant organic carbon, ( living biomass &amp; Glomalins) in addition to the carbon in the biochar.</p>
<p>Every 1 ton of Biomass yields 1/3 ton Charcoal for soil Sequestration (= to 1 Ton CO2e) + Bio-Gas &amp; Bio-oil fuels = to 1MWh exported electricity, so is a totally virtuous, carbon negative energy cycle.</p>
<p>Biochar viewed as soil Infrastructure; The old saw;<br />
&#8220;Feed the Soil Not the Plants&#8221; becomes;<br />
&#8220;Feed, Cloth and House the Soil, utilities included !&#8221;.<br />
Free Carbon Condominiums with carboxyl group fats in the pantry and hydroxyl alcohol in the mini bar.<br />
Build it and the Wee-Beasties will come.<br />
Microbes like to sit down when they eat.<br />
By setting this table we expand husbandry to whole new orders &amp; Kingdoms of life.<br />
( These oxidised surface charges; carbonyl. hydroxyl, carboxylic acids, and lactones or quinones,  have as well a role as signaling substances towards bacteria, fungi and plants.)</p>
<p>This is what I try to get across to Farmers, as to how I feel about the act of returning carbon to the soil. An act of penitence and thankfulness for the civilization we have created. Farmers are the Soil Sink Bankers, once carbon has a price, they will be laughing all the way to it.<br />
Unlike CCS which only reduces emissions, biochar systems draw down CO2 every energy cycle, closing a circle back to support the soil food web.  The photosynthetic  &#8220;capture&#8221; collectors are up and running, the &#8220;storage&#8221; sink is in operation just under our feet.  Pyrolysis conversion plants are the only infrastructure  we need to build out.</p>
<p>For those looking for an overview of biochar and its benefits, These authors have done a very nice job of distilling a great deal of information about biochar and applying it to the US context:</p>
<p>US -Focused Biochar report: Assessment of Biochar&#8217;s Benefits for the USA <a href="http://www.biochar-us.org/pdf%20files/biochar_report_lowres.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.biochar-us.org/pdf%20files/biochar_report_lowres.pdf</a></p>
<p>Ultimately we must leave the combustion age behind. Charcoal to the soil is a bridging first step as other energy conversion technologies bloom from Nano and bio reasearch. Thankfully we can do Pyrolitic Biofuels now.</p>
<p>Oil interest must come to see the overwhelming value of their carbon as the feedstock for the manufacture ( via carbon nanotubes, fullerines, DNA programed nano self assembly, etc.) of virtually all things in the near future.</p>
<p>This convergence of different technologies will end the Combustion age.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Biomass finds support in the NW by Bob Zybach</title>
		<link>http://www.onevoiceforworkingforests.com/2010/07/biomass-finds-support-in-the-nw/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Zybach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 01:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is good to see Peter DeFazio be so supportive of active forest management for once.

Douglas County Commissioner Joseph Laurance has gained national recognition as &quot;Biomass Joe&quot; for his efforts in Douglas County.

Last week he gave the following testimony in Washington DC:

http://westinstenv.org/sosf/2010/07/15/douglas-co-commissioner-joe-laurance-july-15-testimony/

It would be great to see Oregon&#039;s Congressional leaders get behind Joe&#039;s NACO proposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is good to see Peter DeFazio be so supportive of active forest management for once.</p>
<p>Douglas County Commissioner Joseph Laurance has gained national recognition as &#8220;Biomass Joe&#8221; for his efforts in Douglas County.</p>
<p>Last week he gave the following testimony in Washington DC:</p>
<p><a href="http://westinstenv.org/sosf/2010/07/15/douglas-co-commissioner-joe-laurance-july-15-testimony/" rel="nofollow">http://westinstenv.org/sosf/2010/07/15/douglas-co-commissioner-joe-laurance-july-15-testimony/</a></p>
<p>It would be great to see Oregon&#8217;s Congressional leaders get behind Joe&#8217;s NACO proposal.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What spotted owl? by arthur</title>
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		<dc:creator>arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 16:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I echo &quot;cna training&quot; -- what a great post and analysis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I echo &#8220;cna training&#8221; &#8212; what a great post and analysis.</p>
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